National Alliance of Families

For The Return of America's Missing Servicemen

+ World War II + Korea + Cold War + Vietnam + Gulf War +

BITS 'N' PIECES - DECEMBER 5TH, 1998

Dolores Apodaca Alfond

National Chairperson - (dolores@nationalalliance.org)

Voice/Fax 425-881-1499

Lynn O'Shea

New York State Director - (lynn@nationalalliance.org)

Voice/Fax 718-846-4350





The National Alliance of Families mourns the passing of Julie Thomas, wife of POW/MIA James Thomas. Mrs. Thomas struggled for 26 years to learn the truth about her husband's fate. In the end, the struggle became to much for her to bear. To daughters Kim, Lisa, Symphony, and the entire Thomas family, we offer our prayers and deepest sympathy.



Update on the Russian Document - On November 30th, the Washington Times, in an article by Bill Gertz, reported - "Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright waited months before asking the Russian government about a KGB document suggesting captured Americans were taken to the Soviet Union for intelligence purposes during the late 1960s, according to Clinton administration officials...."


"...Mrs. Albright, however, did not act until Oct. 29 in writing to the new Russian foreign minister, Igor Ivanov, seeking information about the plan, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity."


"Delays in the case have upset a number of officials familiar with internal discussions on the issue. State Department officials "have been dragging their feet on this since the start," complained one..."


"...Officials familiar with the U.S. government's deliberations said they were upset with the State Department's failure to pursue information about the POW issue, which the administration has said is a high priority. "They didn't want to upset the Russians," said an official close to the issue."


"...Lonnie Spiegel, a State Department official involved in Russia policy, told Pentagon officials in September the department had more urgent matters to discuss with Moscow. Mrs. Albright's letter to Mr. Primakov was not sent because of the "large number of issues between the U.S. and Russian governments that required immediate attention," according to officials familiar with the meeting..."


"The failure to press the Russians on the issue highlights the Clinton administration's general reticence to press Moscow about contentious issues, said officials critical of the soft-line policy."


"According to the officials, Denis Clift, a member of a joint U.S.-Russian commission on POWs, objected to the delays during a Sept. 16 meeting of U.S. officials, when the Albright letter was discussed. The failure to contact Mr. Primakov "did not make sense," he said."


Mr. Clift, a former DIA official who is president of the Joint Military Intelligence College, said Mr. Primakov was "specifically mentioned" in the Volkogonov book disclosing the KGB program, and thus any letters should be sent to Mr. Primakov and not the foreign minister...."


"Another State Department official said that Undersecretary of State Thomas Pickering asked Deputy Foreign Minister Gerogi Mamedov about the KGB program during a meeting in London earlier this year, but the issue never reached any high levels of the U.S. or Russian governments until November."


"Moscow has refused to release the document despite numerous U.S. government appeals, including a recent request by Vice President Al Gore to Mr. Primakov on Nov. 17 in Malaysia, and requests made at a U.S.-Russia POW commission meeting in Moscow three weeks ago."


"In July, Mr. Gore was scheduled to discuss the matter during a dinner meeting with Russian Prime Minister Sergei Kiriyenko in Moscow. But the topic never came up because Mr. Gore became sidetracked with other topics."


"Mrs. Albright never wrote or asked Mr. Primakov about the POW issue, even though she had developed close ties to the Russian. Mrs. Albright and Mr. Primakov performed a song-and-dance routine together during a banquet July 28 in Manila that was put on as part of a diplomatic forum sponsored by the Association of Southeast Asian Nations."


"Details about the KGB document were first reported by The Washington Times on Nov. 9. In response, the White House initially said President Clinton would not ask Mr. Primakov about the matter during a scheduled meeting in Malaysia. A day later, White House officials insisted the president might bring up the subject, but the meeting never took place due to the crisis over Iraq. Instead, Mr. Gore met Mr. Primakov on Nov. 17 in Kuala Lumpur, and the Russian prime minister agreed to look into the matter, according to U.S. officials."


"Russian officials have provided conflicting statements about the KGB plan identified by Gen. Volkogonov. During the POW commission meeting earlier this month in Moscow, one official from the SVR intelligence service said the document did not exist. A second SVR official said the document was classified and would not be released."



State Department Double Talk - On December 1st, the Washington Times reported on the State Department reaction to the Nov. 30th Gertz article. An article by Martin Sieff, titled "State terms Times report on U.S. POWs `nonsense'" reads "The State Department yesterday described as "nonsense" a Washington Times report that Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright waited for several months before following a KGB document suggesting American prisoners were taken to the Soviet Union in the 1960s. "That report is nonsense," State Department spokesman James P. Rubin told reporters."


"...The Washington Times, quoting officials familiar with the U.S. government's deliberations, reported President Clinton was informed of the contents of the document in March but that Mrs. Albright only took action on it Oct. 29..."


"However, Mr. Rubin said the administration had taken vigorous action to pursue the issue with the Russians at least five months before Mrs. Albright wrote that letter...."


"State Department officials say that in London in May, Undersecretary of State Thomas Pickering, the No. 3 man at the State Department and former U.S. ambassador to Russia, raised the issue "on behalf of Secretary Albright" with Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Georgy Mamedov. He is the chief Russian Foreign Ministry official charged with dealing with the United States."


"In mid-July, Vice President Al Gore pushed the subject again in a letter to then-Russian Prime Minister Sergei Kiriyenko, Mr. Rubin said. Mr. Kiriyenko responded to the vice president's concern the following month and promised full Russian cooperation... "



"Report: US Discouraged POW Data" From Reuters - "NEW YORK -- Russian officials complained in a classified cable last November that State Dept. officials were discouraging them from releasing documents about American prisoners of war in Vietnam, The New York Times reported Friday."


"The cable, dated November 12, was made available to the Times by Clinton administration officials...."


"According to the cable, the Russians complained that some US officials were pressing them to turn over documents about US soldiers missing in Vietnam, while others told them that the release of the documents would hurt American-Russian relations."


"The newspaper said senior State Dept. officials reached Thursday vigorously denied they had told the Russians not to disclose documents. They said they repeatedly pressed Moscow to produce whatever documents it had."


"The cable was sent by the American head of the Moscow office of Task Force Russia, an official Russian-American group whose role was to seek information from Moscow about Americans missing from the Vietnam and Korean wars. It was sent under the name of Thomas Pickering, the US ambassador to Russia."


"Pickering said he did not understand how the Russians got a mixed message, asserting that Washington had repeatedly asked for all relevant information."


"Last year President Clinton said he wanted the fullest possible accounting of the fate of more than 2200 American soldiers missing in Indochina."


"The newspaper said the administration officials who provided the cable were concerned that it indicated that some State Dept. officials were flouting Clinton's policy in order to avoid embarrassing disclosures from Soviet archives..."


"According to the cable, Russian Lieutenant Colonel Sergei Osipov, a liaison with American Missing in Action investigators in Moscow, said the Russian Foreign Ministry heard that State Dept. officials "were discouraging further releases of such documents."



The More Things Change The More They Stay The Same - The above Reuters story Was put out on the wire service on Feb. 18th, 1994. The New York Times article referenced in the story was published Feb. 13,1994.



It is the belief of the National Alliance of Families that nothing has changed in almost five years, since the Reuters and N.Y. Times stories appeared. There are those within the government who want to get into the Russian Archives and release all POW related material and there are those that do not want that material released.


So far, those that want the material to remain hidden are winning. There has to be an end to the mixed messages going to Moscow.


Our message is simple - The U.S. Government must truly elevate the POW/MIA issue to the "highest national priority?" State department assurances that "The administration has been active and vigilant in pursuing this issue with the Russians at all levels," is unacceptable.


We are talking POWs here. There is only one level - chief honcho to chief honcho, that means Clinton, Yeltsin and Primakov, no Vice Presidents, no Joint commission member, no deputy ministers, no State Department representatives, and no letters. Clinton has to pick up the red phone and specifically ask for the document referred to by Gen. Volkogonov, and all other POW/MIA documents held in Russian Archives.


If the Russians refuse the request, we should rethink our aid packages to the former Soviet Union. The United States government (translation - the taxpayers) currently provide millions of dollars in foreign aid to Russia. Additionally, we have guaranteed Russia's International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans.


It is time we get some return on our investment.


Clearly, the Russian government holds documents relating to the former Soviet Unions involvement with American POWs from all wars. Continued aid should hinge on the release of those documents.



Contact President Clinton and the Russian Ambassador - ask that this document and all other POW/MIA related documents in the Russian Archives, be released at once.


The Honorable Bill Clinton The Honorable Yuli M. Vorontsov, Ambassador
1600 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W. Russian Federation
2650 Wisconsin Ave., N.W.
Washington D.C. 20500 Washington D.C. 20007
Tel: 202-456-1414 Tel: 202-298-5700
Fax: 202-456-2461 Fax: 202-298-5735
e-mail: president@whitehouse.gov e-mail: russ-amb@cerfnet.com


Special Thanks To - Mary and Chuck Schantag of the POW Network for locating this article in their archives. We remembered there was a story but we would never have found it, without them.



Servicemen Accounted for - From the Department of Defense, Dec. 3, 1998 - "The remains of two American airmen previously unaccounted-for from the war in Southeast Asia have been identified and are being returned to the United States for burial. They are identified as Air Force Col. Gregory I. Barras, Jackson, Miss., and Air Force Capt. Joseph O. Brown, Norwalk, Conn..."


"Barras was flying his A-1H Skyraider on a night armed reconnaissance mission on Dec. 18, 1968, over Khammouan Province, Laos...." "... In 1991, a joint team of specialists from the U.S. Joint Casualty Resolution Center and from Laos interviewed a local informant in a small village near the crash site. He recalled burying an American pilot nearby amid the widely scattered wreckage of an aircraft. The team excavated the site and found pilot-related items, personal effects and human remains."


"Brown was the pilot of a O-1F Bird Dog aircraft flying a forward air control mission over Khammouan Province, Laos, on April 19, 1966..." "...Joint teams of U.S. and Laos specialists visited the area of the crash on two occasions in 1994 and 1995. Led by the Joint Task Force-Full Accounting, the teams recovered pilot-related items, an aircraft data plate from Brown's aircraft, as well as human remains."


"Anthropological analysis of the remains and other evidence by the U.S. Army Central Identification Laboratory Hawaii established the identification of both Barras and Brown."



By Now - you all know what is missing from the above DOD announcement, which brings us to one of the great unanswered questions ---- Why does Johnnie Webb Still Have a Job?



Update - The September 26th edition of Bits 'N' Pieces, outlined the desperate financial situation of the National Alliance of Families. Many have responded with contributions to retire the debt.


To our Santa's: A.B.A.T.E. of N. Idaho Chapter - American Legion Rose Harms #355 - Ambush Enterprises - Daisy & Donald Barton - Cathy and Forest Brooks - Kathrine and Steve Butler - James and Rosario Carroll - Colorado POW/MIA Coalition - Nancy & Richard Dean - Dept. of N.Y. Marine Corp League - Jeffrey & Gail Donahue - Jean A. Fallon - Wayne & J.S. Feltenberger - Ernesto & Carleen Gomez - Verna R. Guess - Wayne Hawkins - Heart of Illinois POW/MIA Assoc. - Dovie & Don Huffman - Thomas & Cathrine Humphries - James Keeffe - Kelly O'Keefe V.F.W. Aux # 6963 - Steve Klein - Christine La Frate - Jon C. Lindstrom - Long Island POW/MIA Coalition - Joshua D. Longmore - Doris & David Maitland - Irene Mandra - William Matthes - J. David Murray - National Vietnam Veterans Coalition - Dennis & Janice Phillips - POW Ct. Forget-Me-Nots Inc - Pray 4 POWs Org. - Laverne Ransbottom - Christopher S. Rich - Paul E. Rifenberg - Thomas F. Riordan - Lillian Roberts - Rolling Thunder Inc. - Rolling Thunder Times - Susan & Rex Schoonover - Nell & Donald Smith - Task Force Omega of Ky. - Claude & Bertina Thau - Darlene & Glen Ticehurst - V.F.W. of U.S., Dept. of New York - V.F.W Post No. 2866 - V.V.A. # 757 - V.V.A. #757 Associate Members - and V.V.A. Sgt N. Steblin Memorial Post,


We say, Thank You. Your support is deeply appreciated.



In acknowledging supporters, individually, there is always the chance that someone will accidentally be omitted from the list. If we failed to acknowledge a contribution, we apologize.



Another Year Is Ending. We all hoped and prayed that 1998 would be the year our POW/MIAs came home. We prayed 1998 would be the year to celebrate and hang those long unused Christmas Stockings. As the days of 1998 wind down we must prepare to take our battle into 1999. We are all a little older, a little grayer, and maybe for some, the flame of hope has dimmed, just a little.


As 1999 dawns, we at the National Alliance of Families intend to fan that flame of hope until it is a burning beacon, shining bright, a beacon that will lead us to the truth and bring our men home.


We, at The National Alliance of Families thank you all, for your support. We wish you a very Merry Christmas and a Healthy and Happy New Year. We pray for strength to carry ouR fight into 1999 and we pray that 1999 will be the year our POW/MIA's come home.


In closing, we repeat, what is now our traditional Christmas greeting. The words are Hallmarks, the sentiment belongs to the POW/MIA families and activists.


"IF CHRISTMAS MEANS SHARING, then let us share together our hope for tomorrow...


IF CHRISTMAS MEANS GIVING, then let us give one another strength, encouragement, and faith


IF CHRISTMAS MEANS LOVE, then let us love one another with the hearts of children... in the spirit of peace."


Let us all work together in the New Year,

to make the words "I'll be home for Christmas"

more than just a dream for our POW/MIAs.


Truth, Joy and Peace to us all in 1999.


Dolores and Lynn


"Thus saith the Lord; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears; for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the Lord: and they shall come again from the land of the enemy; and there is hope in thine end, saith the Lord, that thy children shall come again to their own border."


Jeremiah 31:16--17:





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