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June 28, 2008


Get Well Wishes to Col. Earl Hopper - Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers.

House Sub-Committee on Military Personnel to Hold Hearings - On June 25th we learned that the House Sub-Committee on Military Personnel would hold hearings on the POW/MIA issue. While we welcome the Committee decision to hold its first hearings on the POW/MIA issue since 1998, the Committee and Congressional leadership should understand that these hearings are not a substitute for passage of H.Res 111.

Hearings simply give organizations and individuals a chance to present a picture as they see it and to make recommendations on future efforts. These hearings do not provide the opportunity for in depth investigations of the type required to properly address new POW/MIA information discovered and developed since the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs issued its final report in January 1993.

The first hearing is scheduled for 2:00 PM July 10th. You can watch and/or listen to the hearing via the internet at http://armedservices.house.gov/audiocast.shtml Testifying that day will be Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for POW/MIA Affairs (DPMO) Charles Ray and Admiral Donna Crisp, Commander of the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC.) Dates for future hearings have not been set. When they are we will let you know.

REMEMBER - These hearings are not an acceptable substitute for passage of H.Res 111.

China Finally Admits What We've Known All Along -- The Chinese government acknowledged, in 2003, that Korean War POW Richard Desautels was taken into China. Desautels was transported inland over 150 miles to the town of Mudken (now Shenyang) where the Chinese say he died and was buried.

This information was provided to the Desautels family in 2003. The stunning admission of the Chinese government that a POW was transported to China came after 50 years of denial that any Korean War POWs were taken into China.

According to a summary provided to the Desautels family "The People's Liberation Army representative stated that he had found a complete record of 9-10 pages on this case in the Chinese archives, which are still classified. The Chinese People's Liberation Volunteer Army captured Sergeant Desautels and he was known to be a POW. According to the Chinese, Sergeant Desautels became mentally ill on April 22, 1953 and died on April 29, 1953. He was buried in a cemetery near Shenyang. The graves were moved when construction activity was conducted in the area and there is no record of where Desautels' remains were reinterred. Defense Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office (DPMO) requested a copy of the documents relating to this case. The Chinese have not yet passed those documents to DPMO."

Sadly this information was withheld from Korean War POW/MIA families. A Pentagon spokesperson stated that the information was meant only for the Desautles family. Technically, that is true. By law case specific information can only go to a family member. It is the family member's choice to disseminate or not.

However, non-case specific information such as the stunning admission, after 50 years of denial that an American POW was moved to China impacts all Korean War POW/MIA families. That information should have been shared with the families and the public without the case specific details naming Richard Desautles.

The overwhelming evidence of Chinese involvement with American POWs from the Korean War makes it impossible to believe that Richard Desautles was the only POW taken to China.

The following is excerpted from an Associated Press article, published June 19th, Robert Burns. Full text of the Burns article may be found on our website at http://www.nationalalliance.org/korea/ap.htm

"…. China had long insisted that all POW questions were answered at the conclusion of the war in 1953 and that no Americans were moved to Chinese territory from North Korea. The little-known case of Army Sgt. Richard G. Desautels, of Shoreham, Vt., opens another chapter in this story and raises the possibility that new details concerning the fate of other POWs may eventually surface."

"Chinese authorities gave Pentagon officials intriguing new details about Desautels in a March 2003 meeting in Beijing, saying they had found "a complete record of 9-10 pages" in classified archives."

"Until now, this information had been kept quiet; a Pentagon spokesman said it was intended only for Desautels' family members. The details were provided to Desautels' brother, Rolland, who passed them to a POW-MIA advocacy group, the National Alliance of Families, which gave them to AP this week."

"According to the Chinese, Sgt. Desautels became mentally ill on April 22, 1953, and died on April 29, 1953," the summary said. It added that he had been buried in a Chinese cemetery but the grave was moved during a construction project "and there is no record of where Desautels' remains were reinterred."

The reported circumstance of Desautels' death - sudden mental illness - may sound improbable. But the key revelation - that he was taken from North Korea to a city in northeastern China and then buried - matches long-held U.S. suspicions about China's handling, or mishandling, of American POWs during and after the war."

"It raises the possibility that wartime Chinese records could shed light on the fate of other U.S. captives who were known to be held in Chinese-run POW camps but did not return when the fighting ended in 1953. And it appears to undercut the Pentagon's public stance that China returned all POWs it held inside China…."

"Desautels' reported burial site - the city of Shenyang, formerly known as Mukden - is interesting because it is far from the North Korean border and was often cited in declassified U.S. intelligence reports as the site of one or more prisons holding hundreds of American POWs from Korea. Some U.S. reports referred to Mukden as a possible transshipment point for POWs headed to Russia…."

"The Pentagon has taken an interest in the Desautels case for many years. A June 1998 Pentagon cable to the U.S. Embassy in Beijing said the case was one of several on which China should be pushed to provide answers, that "we believe the Chinese should be able to account for these individuals."

"Now it turns out that China did provide an accounting, although it is incomplete and was kept under wraps for five years. Larry Greer, a spokesman for the POW-MIA office at the Pentagon, said Thursday that although U.S. officials asked to see the 9-10 page file on Desautels, China has yet to provide it or additional information."

"Mark Sauter, an author and researcher on the subject of POWs from the Korean War, said in an interview that Beijing authorities are to be commended for finally providing useful information. "The case of Sgt. Desautels has been a focal point of a six-decade cover-up by the Chinese government," Sauter said. "This is the first crack in the dike. From what we can tell, the Pentagon has not aggressively followed up, either on the Desautels case or those of hundreds of other Americans for whom the Chinese should be able to account."

"American officials believed from the earliest days of the armistice that concluded the Korean War without a formal peace treaty in July 1953 that the Chinese and North Koreans withheld a number of U.S. POWs, possibly in retaliation for U.S. refusal to repatriate those Chinese and North Korean POWs who chose not to be returned to their home country out of fear of retribution."

"Gen. Mark W. Clark, the American commander of U.S.-led forces during the final stages of the Korean War, wrote in a 1954 account that "we had solid evidence" that hundreds of captive Americans were held back by the Chinese and North Koreans, possibly as leverage to gain a China seat on the U.N. Security Council."

"Over time, however, U.S. officials muted their concerns, while periodically pressing the Chinese in private. Publicly, the Pentagon's stance today is that China returned all the U.S. POWs it held. "Some U.S. POWs spent time across the (Yalu) river in Manchuria, but to the best of our knowledge, all have returned," the Pentagon's POW/MIA office says in a summary of wartime POW camps."

What Returned POWs Had to Say About Richard Desautels -- "The above mentioned POW was taken into China... He returned to Camp No. 5, in March 1952, at that time he mentioned if he should disappear to make inquires concerning his whereabouts with the proper military authorities...." Statement of former POW Joseph [Last Name Unreadable] - 16 June 1954.

"Cpl Desautels.... remained at POW Camp #6 two or three weeks and was then taken away by the Chinese." Statement of former POW Ellis P. Clark - 8 June 1954

"The last time I saw Cpl Desautels was in April 1953,... In the middle part of April 1953, he told us (me and other GI's, whose names I don't recall), that he was going to be taken to Autung, China…."Statement of former POW, signature unreadable, - 17 June 1954

"Cpl Desautels to the best of my knowledge is still alive.... To the best of my knowledge he was last seen about May '52." Statement of former POW Westley Little - 10 June 1954

"....He was either killed by the Chinese or is still being held." Statement of former POW Clarence Banks - 25 May 1954

"When we were repatriated, I saw him. He was taken away cause he could speak Chinese, so they took him out of the camp. They said he was a rumor spreader and blamed everything that went on in camp on him. So they took him away and when I was released I saw him in Pyoktong village. He must of been held." Statement of former POW Richard Grenier - 12 June 1954

There are at least 19 statements made by former POWs, reporting Richard Desautels in captivity. By far, the most chilling statement expresses Richard Desautels own fears "...he mentioned if he should disappear to make inquires concerning his whereabouts with the proper military authorities...."

Richard Desautels knew he wasn't coming home. He expected his government to come and get him.

Shenyang, formerly known as Mukden - The name Mukden appears in many documents relating to the issue of POWs transferred from North Korea to China. Not being familiar with the area, we did a little Google search and came up with two very interesting facts.

1. The Shenyang Aircraft Corp. - "Founded in 1953, Shenyang Aircraft Corporation [SAC], with some 30,000 employees, has emerged as China's largest fighter aircraft enterprise….. SAC is divided into four divisions: civilian aircraft and ancillary equipment, military aircraft, and civilian products…" [Source: Federation of American Scientists (FAS ) http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/contractor/sac.htm ]

2. School of Foreign Languages - " Founded in 1953, the School of Foreign Languages, Shenyang Normal University has five departments. They are English Department II (3rd-4th year teaching), the Russian Department, the Japanese Department, and the French and German Department. [Source: School of Foreign Languages web page http://lilyedu.com/english/theschooldetail.html ]

An Aircraft Factory and a School of Foreign Languages, both founded in 1953. We know Richard Desautels spoke English, French (according to his records) and Chinese. We know allied forces in Korea were made up of troops from various nations. We also know a large numbers of pilots believed captured never returned. Missing ground troops…. Missing airmen…. A School of Foreign Languages…. An Aircraft Factory….

Coincidence, you decide!

Little Did We Know -- In the March 1, 2008 edition of Bits N Pieces, we commented on a recent agreement between the Chinese and U.S. Government that would have Chinese archivists searching records for information on Korean War POWs and MIAs. At that time we stated; "High on the list of individuals on whom the Chinese records should provide information are Roger Dumas, Richard Desautels and Paul Van Voohris." Little did we know…

What Our Old Friend Senator Bob Smith Had to Say Regarding POWs Taken to China - "I spent all 18 years of my career saying and uncovering and showing documentation that the Chinese had taken US POWS from the Korean War. When I visited North Korea in the early 90's their Vice Foreign Minister, Kong Sok Chu, when I asked him if the North Koreans had taken any US prisoners at the end of the armistice answered as follows: "The Chinese manned the American POW camps in Korea and the Chinese guards took them across the border into China during and at the end of the war." I asked if they were still there and he said, "of course." Not one media outlet gave a c**p and we again brought it up during the Select Committee hearings and no one in the government or the media paid any attention, that is, except those who mocked me and said we were nuts (like John McCain for instance!). The Russian archives are full of intelligence about this. As Norm Kass knows we brought back thousands of documents from Russia on this and other matters and gave them to the government never to be seen again. It is a shameful chapter in American history that we wrote guys off from the Cold War, Korea and Viet Nam which is why the documents are being held back from the public to protect those spineless cowards at the highest levels of government who covered it all up. Senator Bob

President To Lift Sanctions Against North Korea - Citing North Korea's progress on the nuclear issue, President George W. Bush is prepared to lift sanctions against North Korea. Speaking from the Rose Garden of the White House, President Bush stated;

"The six-party talks are based on a principle of "action for action." So in keeping with the existing six-party agreements, the United States is responding to North Korea's actions with two actions of our own:

"First, I'm issuing a proclamation that lifts the provisions of the Trading with the Enemy Act with respect to North Korea."

"And secondly, I am notifying Congress of my intent to rescind North Korea's designation as a state sponsor of terror in 45 days. The next 45 days will be an important period for North Korea to show its seriousness of its cooperation. We will work through the six-party talks to develop a comprehensive and rigorous verification protocol. And during this period, the United States will carefully observe North Korea's actions -- and act accordingly."

"The two actions America is taking will have little impact on North Korea's financial and diplomatic isolation. North Korea will remain one of the most heavily sanctioned nations in the world. The sanctions that North Korea faces for its human rights violations, its nuclear test in 2006, and its weapons proliferation will all stay in effect. And all United Nations Security Council sanctions will stay in effect as well."

"The six-party process has shed light on a number of issues of serious concern to the United States and the international community. To end its isolation, North Korea must address these concerns. It must dismantle all of its nuclear facilities, give up its separated plutonium, resolve outstanding questions on its highly enriched uranium and proliferation activities, and end these activities in a way that we can fully verify."

"North Korea must also meet other obligations it has undertaken in the six-party talks. The United States will never forget the abduction of Japanese citizens by the North Koreans. We will continue to closely cooperate and coordinate with Japan and press North Korea to swiftly resolve the abduction issue…."

During Questions and Answers the President again addressed the issue of Japanese abductees stating: "The other thing I want to assure our friends in Japan is that this process will not leave behind -- leave them behind on the abduction issue. The United States takes the abduction issue very seriously. We expect the North Koreans to solve this issue in a positive way for the Japanese. There's a lot of folks in Japan that are deeply concerned about what took place. I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office. It was a heart-wrenching moment to listen to the mother talk about what it was like to lose her daughter. And it is important for the Japanese people to know that the United States will not abandon our strong ally and friend when it comes to helping resolve that issue."

While we applaud the President's commitment to the issue of Japanese abductees, we must ask…..

What about American and South Korean POWs held in North Korea?

Speaking of South Korean POWs Held in North Korea -- The Dong-A Ilbo reported on June 25th - "A former POW who fought in the Korean War has escaped North Korea and is about to return to South Korea, his home."

"Choi Seong-yong, president of the Families of Abducted and Detained in North Korea, confirmed yesterday at a press conference, "A former South Korean soldier surnamed Kim is currently staying in a third country. He crossed the North Korean border at around 10 p.m. on June 14. He joined the South Korean army in August 1951 at age 17. He is now 74 years old."

"Choi released video clips showing Kim's escape route and interviews in the third country. A senior government official also confirmed, "We are talking with the country to bring [Kim] back."

"According to Choi, Kim was shot during the final stages of the Korean War in the Geumseong zone, which was flooded by the Chinese army. There, he became a POW. Following the incident he worked at a mine in North Pyongan Province, North Korea for 40 years, since June 1954. In the early 1990s, he moved to North Hamgyong Province and worked as a farmer. His wife and four children remain in the North. All his siblings still live in the South."

"In a written petition sent to President Lee Myung-bak, Kim pleaded, "I am sick and suffering. Please help me return to my country." Choi also urged that the South ". . . light candles for the thousands of POWs and South Koreans dying in North Korea."

Light Candles for All Our POWs and MIAs - World War II - Korea - Cold War - Vietnam - Gulf Wars

A Warning - Beware of individuals presenting information on live POWs in various circumstances. Recently, both Irene Mandra of the Korea-Cold War Families of the Missing and Lynn O'Shea received reports of POWs held in a cave in Laos. The report received by Ms Mandra named two Korean War POWs and a Cold War POW. One of the Korean War POWs named was Ms. Mandra's brother Philip. The identical report received by Lynn O'Shea name two different Korean War POWs along with Vietnam POW John McDonnell. It was obvious that these reports were tailored to the interest of the individuals receiving them.

We have since learned that other POW/MIA family members have received the same reports each tailored to the individual receiving them.

Be skeptical of anyone you don't know giving you information but not providing back up or supporting evidence. If someone tells you they know 60 - 70 POWs are alive make them answer the hard questions. How do you know? On what do you base your information? Is the information case specific or an opinion? Lastly, if case specific, provide names. If someone doesn't answer questions run the other way?

Beware of intrigue - my phone is tapped…. I am being followed… my home has been broken into several times. If the home has been broken into make them provide the police report.

Be as skeptical of someone telling you they know where a live POW is as you are as skeptical of DPMO telling you all the POWs are dead.

If someone is legitimate and has legitimate information they will welcome the questions and provide the necessary information that will allow for the recovery of that POW.

Beware and be cautious….. Above all DO NOT GIVE ANYONE MONEY WITHOUT HARD EVIDENCE.

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